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Qwen3.6-27B-Verstand-LoRA is a machine learning model from schneewolflabs. Use it for the machine learning task on the model card, and read the license before you ship it in a product. It is set up for peft. The card lists the license as apache-2.0.
Verstand: German for understanding, reason, sense.
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From the Hugging Face model README
Verstand: German for understanding, reason, sense.
Reasoning SFT on Wichtel-Qwen3.6-27B, trained on schneewolflabs/Verstand-SFT — 44,706 rows of prompt / reasoning-trace / answer.
This is a rescued 20% checkpoint, not a finished run. Read the next two sections before using it.
The run died at step 553 of 2767 — 19.96% of one epoch — when Merlina's memory guard hit its hard floor on the Spark's unified pool (2.74GB free of 122GB; GPU and system RAM share one pool, so continuing would have taken the whole machine down rather than just the job).
The checkpoint saved cleanly at 22:39, two minutes before the abort, so the adapter survived
intact. accelerate.save_state has no idea a model is PEFT-wrapped, so what it wrote was a 55.35GB
full state dict with the r=32 adapter buried inside; the 512 lora_A/lora_B tensors were
extracted from it by byte range and rebuilt into a normal PEFT adapter.
| stopped at | step 553 / 2767 (0.1996 epoch) |
| train loss | 0.5075 |
| eval loss | 0.4700 |
| LR at stop | 4.70e-05 of a 5e-05 peak (cosine, never annealed) |
| cause | memory guard hard floor, unified-memory machine |
The effective delta is very large:
| adapter | ‖B·A‖ (summed over 256 module pairs) |
|---|---|
| Federkiel | 0.287 |
| Chud | 0.404 |
| Stimme (also a ~20% halt) | 2.143 |
| Verstand | 7.809 |
That is 27× Federkiel and 3.6× Stimme. It is what an undertrained adapter looks like — the cosine schedule never annealed, so the weights are large and unsettled rather than converged.
The one comparable case is Stimme, halted at a similar point, which turned out genuinely useful at scale 0.50 and did real damage by 1.50 (t = +6.0) and 2.00 (t = +10.9). Verstand's delta is 3.6× larger again, so start well below 1.0 — 0.10 to 0.25 is the sensible opening range — and measure before trusting any particular value.
Uploaded for preservation. At the time of writing, evaluation is still running and no capability or reasoning claim is being made.
What is known:
What is not known, and should not be assumed:
A flat or slow-moving loss curve says very little either way. Schierling's loss also went flat and that adapter still moved hembench from 10.1% to 65.0%, so the curve is not evidence of saturation and the absence of a dramatic drop is not evidence of failure. Only held-out measurement settles it.
Wichtel handles thinking mode cleanly (0 of 8 probe prompts failed). Its descendant
Elster, which stacks three style
adapters on top, entered a degenerate loop on 1 of 8 — reasoning correctly about a Python
request for ~2,000 characters and then emitting Hemlock code 79 times without ever closing the
</think> block, 89.6% 8-gram repetition.
A reasoning SFT over coherent, terminating traces is a plausible corrective for exactly that class of failure, since it is a termination and language-selection collapse rather than a knowledge gap. Whether this checkpoint is trained far enough to act as one is the open question.
| base | nbeerbower/Wichtel-Qwen3.6-27B |
| method | SFT, LoRA r=32 α=64 dropout 0.05 |
| schedule | 1 epoch planned, cosine, lr 5e-5 — stopped at 20% |
| batch | 2 × grad-accum 8 = effective 16 |
| sequence | max_length 2048, max_prompt_length 1536 |
| format | tokenizer chat template, enable_thinking=True |
Dataset composition is worth knowing: 31,482 of 44,706 rows (70%) come from the bigdenker
source, with traceinv-math 8,490, traceinv-general 3,325 and denkercode 1,409. A per-source
cap would improve balance and cut wall-clock on any retry — at 185s/step the full epoch was
~142 hours.
Trained with Merlina.