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This is a GGUF-quantized version of the Qwen/Qwen3-8B language model - an 8-billion-parameter LLM from Alibaba's Qwen series, designed for advanced reasoning, agentic behavior, and multilingual tasks.
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From the Hugging Face model README
This is a GGUF-quantized version of the Qwen/Qwen3-8B language model - an 8-billion-parameter LLM from Alibaba's Qwen series, designed for advanced reasoning, agentic behavior, and multilingual tasks.
Converted for use with llama.cpp and compatible tools like OpenWebUI, LM Studio, GPT4All, and more.
The Qwen3-8B model represents a significant leap in capability while remaining remarkably accessible for local and edge deployment. It offers:
It’s ideal for:
Choose Qwen3-8B when you need high-quality output and robust general intelligence - but still value efficiency, privacy, and full control over your deployment environment.
At 8B scale, quantization achieves exceptional resilience—all bit widths deliver production-ready quality with imatrix, and even Q2_K becomes viable (+13.4% loss). The model's parameter redundancy provides a "sweet spot" where aggressive compression meets robust architecture. Q5_K_HIFI + imatrix achieves near-lossless fidelity (+0.27% vs F16), while Q4_K_M + imatrix offers the best balance of quality, speed, and compatibility:
| Bit Width | Best Variant (+ imatrix) | Quality vs F16 | File Size | Speed | Memory | Viability |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Q5_K | Q5_K_HIFI + imatrix | +0.27% ✅✅✅ | 5.62 GiB | 109.7 TPS | 5,754 MiB | Exceptional |
| Q4_K | Q4_K_M + imatrix | +1.3% ✅✅ | 4.68 GiB | 125.5 TPS | 4,792 MiB | Excellent |
| Q3_K | Q3_K_HIFI + imatrix | +3.5% ✅ | 2.15 GiB | 151.3 TPS | 2,202 MiB | Very Good |
| Q2_K | Q2_K + imatrix | +13.4% ⚠️ | 3.05 GiB | 169.9 TPS | 3,134 MiB | Fair (viable) |
💡 Critical insight: 8B represents the inflection point where Q2_K becomes genuinely viable with imatrix (+13.4% loss vs +35% at 1.7B). Q5_K_HIFI + imatrix achieves near-lossless quality (+0.27%), while Q4_K_M + imatrix provides the best practical balance. All variants are production-ready with imatrix.
→ Q5_K_HIFI + imatrix
Q6_K_HIFI_RES8 support→ Q4_K_M + imatrix
→ Q2_K + imatrix
→ Q3_K_HIFI + imatrix
→ Q3_K_S + imatrix
⚠️ Q5_K quality ranking reversal with imatrix — Q5_K_S + imatrix (10.1538 PPL) actually beats Q5_K_M + imatrix (10.1612 PPL) by 0.07 PPL points. This makes Q5_K_S + imatrix viable for speed-constrained deployments where the 3.2% speed advantage matters.
⚠️ Q4_K_S without imatrix is unusable — Suffers +5.7% precision loss (10.6893 PPL) — the highest degradation of any Q4 variant at 8B scale. Always pair Q4_K_S with imatrix (reduces loss to +1.9%).
⚠️ Q2_K requires imatrix — Without it, Q2_K suffers +57.9% precision loss (completely unusable). With imatrix, quality improves to +13.4% — viable for non-critical tasks.
⚠️ Q2_K_HIFI is strictly worse than Q2_K — At 8B scale, Q2_K_HIFI loses to Q2_K on every metric (quality, speed, size, memory). Always prefer standard Q2_K over Q2_K_HIFI.
⚠️ Q3_K_HIFI requires no special handling — Unlike at 0.6B/1.7B scales, Q3_K_HIFI at 8B delivers substantial quality gains (+3.5% vs F16 with imatrix) that justify its 13.5% memory premium over Q3_K_M.
⚠️ All Q3 variants are production-ready — Even Q3_K_S with imatrix (+9.0% loss) remains usable for non-critical tasks — a dramatic improvement over smaller scales where Q3 quantization often fails.
| Available VRAM | Recommended Variant | Expected Quality | Why |
|---|---|---|---|
| < 2.0 GiB | Q3_K_S + imatrix | PPL 11.02, +9.0% loss ⚠️ | Only option that fits; quality acceptable for non-critical tasks |
| 2.0 – 2.5 GiB | Q3_K_M + imatrix | PPL 10.62, +5.1% loss ✅ | Best Q3 balance; production-ready quality |
| 2.5 – 3.5 GiB | Q2_K + imatrix | PPL 11.46, +13.4% loss ⚠️ | Maximum speed at 169.9 TPS; quality acceptable for simple tasks |
| 3.5 – 5.0 GiB | Q4_K_M + imatrix | PPL 10.24, +1.3% loss ✅ | Best balance of quality/speed/size; standard compatibility |
| 5.0 – 6.5 GiB | Q5_K_HIFI + imatrix | PPL 10.14, +0.27% loss ✅ | Near-lossless quality; requires custom build |
| > 15.3 GiB | F16 | Best quality (baseline) | Only if absolute precision required |
| Priority | Q2_K Best | Q3_K Best | Q4_K Best | Q5_K Best | Winner |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Quality (with imat) | Q2_K (+13.4%) | Q3_K_HIFI (+3.5%) | Q4_K_M (+1.3%) | Q5_K_HIFI (+0.27%) ✅ | Q5_K_HIFI |
| Speed | Q2_K (169.9 TPS) ✅ | Q3_K_S (223.5 TPS) | Q4_K_S (131.0 TPS) | Q5_K_S (113.3 TPS) | Q2_K |
| Smallest Size | Q2_K (3.05 GiB) | Q3_K_S (1.75 GiB) ✅ | Q4_K_S (4.47 GiB) | Q5_K_S (5.32 GiB) | Q3_K_S |
| Best Balance | Q2_K + imat | Q3_K_M + imat | Q4_K_M + imat ✅ | Q5_K_HIFI + imat | Q4_K_M |
✅ = Recommended for general use
⚠️ = Context-dependent (see warnings above)
Model redundancy threshold: 8B represents the point where parameter count provides sufficient redundancy that quantization errors average out rather than accumulating catastrophically (unlike 0.6B/1.7B)
Q2_K viability inflection: 8B is the smallest scale where Q2_K becomes genuinely viable with imatrix (+13.4% loss). At 4B, Q2_K + imatrix is +18.7%; at 1.7B, +35.0%. This demonstrates a clear scale-dependent improvement curve.
imatrix effectiveness plateau: imatrix recovers 62–76% of precision loss at 8B — less dramatic than at 1.7B (70–78%) but more consistent across bit widths. Q5_K_S benefits most (74.1% recovery), making it competitive with Q5_K_M when imatrix is used.
Residual quantization sweet spot: Q5_K_HIFI's Q6_K_HIFI_RES8 tensors provide maximal benefit at 8B scale — the 5 residual tensors capture precisely the right amount of quantization error without overhead.
Q4_K_HIFI behavior shift: Unlike at 14B where imatrix harms Q4_K_HIFI, at 8B imatrix helps it (-1.1% PPL improvement) — demonstrating non-linear scale effects.
Q3_K viability threshold: 8B is the smallest scale where Q3_K_HIFI achieves truly production-ready quality (+3.5% with imatrix) — below this, Q3 quantization requires careful validation.
Need best quality?
├─ Yes → Q5_K_HIFI + imatrix (+0.27% loss)
└─ No → Need max speed?
├─ Yes → Q2_K + imatrix (169.9 TPS, +13.4% loss)
└─ No → Need smallest size?
├─ Yes → Memory < 2.0 GiB?
│ ├─ Yes → Q3_K_S + imatrix (1,792 MiB, +9.0% loss)
│ └─ No → Q2_K + imatrix (3,134 MiB, +13.4% loss, fastest)
└─ No → Q4_K_M + imatrix (best balance, +1.3% loss, standard build)
→ Q4_K_M + imatrix
Delivers excellent quality (+1.3% vs F16), strong speed (125.5 TPS), compact size (4.68 GiB), and universal llama.cpp compatibility. The safe, practical choice for 95% of deployments.
→ Q5_K_HIFI + imatrix
Achieves near-lossless quantization (+0.27% vs F16) with 64% memory reduction and 2.4× speedup. Requires custom build but worth it for research, content generation, or any task where output fidelity is non-negotiable.
→ Q3_K_HIFI + imatrix
Best Q3 quality (+3.5% vs F16) with smallest viable footprint (2.15 GiB). Production-ready even without imatrix (+8.6% loss) — valuable for environments where imatrix generation isn't feasible.
→ Q5_K_S + imatrix
Fastest Q5 variant (113.3 TPS) with surprisingly good quality (+0.42% vs F16) that actually beats Q5_K_M with imatrix. Ideal when every TPS matters and marginal quality differences are acceptable.
→ Q2_K + imatrix
Only consider when memory/speed are absolutely critical and quality degradation is acceptable. At 8B scale, Q2_K + imatrix achieves +13.4% loss — viable for simple chatbots or non-critical inference.
| Scenario | Recommended Variant | Rationale |
|---|---|---|
| Default / General Purpose | Q4_K_M + imatrix | Best balance of quality (+1.3%), speed (125.5 TPS), size (4.68 GiB), and compatibility |
| Maximum Quality | Q5_K_HIFI + imatrix | Near-lossless (+0.27% vs F16) with 64% memory reduction and 2.4× speedup |
| Maximum Speed | Q2_K + imatrix | Fastest (169.9 TPS, +267% vs F16) with acceptable quality (+13.4% loss) |
| Minimum Size | Q3_K_S + imatrix | Smallest footprint (1.75 GiB) with acceptable quality (+9.0% loss) |
| No imatrix available | Q5_K_HIFI (no imat) | Still excellent (+1.11% vs F16); all variants usable but quality reduced |
| Extreme constraints | Q3_K_S + imatrix | Only if memory < 2.0 GiB; +9.0% loss acceptable for non-critical tasks |
⚠️ Golden rules for 8B:
✅ 8B is the quantization sweet spot: Large enough for robustness across all bit widths (even Q2_K), small enough for dramatic efficiency gains. This scale demonstrates that intelligent quantization can deliver near-F16 quality at 1/3 the memory with 2.4–3.5× speed — a compelling value proposition for nearly all deployments.
NOTE: This analysis does not include the HIFI models.
There are numerous good candidates - lots of different models showed up in the top 3 across all the quesionts. However, Qwen3-8B-f16:Q3_K_M was a finalist in all but one question so is the recommended model (or Qwen3-8B-f16:Q3_HIFI). Qwen3-8B-f16:Q5_K_S did nearly as well and is worth considering,
The 'hello' question is the first time that all models got it exactly right. All models in the 8B range did well and it's mainly a question of what one works best on your hardware.
You can read the results here: Qwen3-8B-analysis.md
If you find this useful, please give the project a ❤️ like.
| Level | Speed | Size | Recommendation |
|---|---|---|---|
| Q2_K | ⚡ Fastest | 3.28 GB | Not recommended. Came first in the bat & ball question, no other appearances. |
| 🥉Q3_K_S | ⚡ Fast | 3.77 GB | 🥉 Came first and second in questions covering both ends of the temperature spectrum. |
| 🥇 Q3_K_M | ⚡ Fast | 4.12 GB | 🥇 Best overall model. Was a top 3 finisher for all questions except the haiku. |
| 🥉Q4_K_S | 🚀 Fast | 4.8 GB | 🥉 Came first and second in questions covering both ends of the temperature spectrum. |
| Q4_K_M | 🚀 Fast | 5.85 GB | Came first and second in questions covering high temperature questions. |
| 🥈 Q5_K_S | 🐢 Medium | 5.72 GB | 🥈 A good second place. Good for all query types. |
| Q5_K_M | 🐢 Medium | 5.85 GB | Not recommended, no appeareances in the top 3 for any question. |
| Q6_K | 🐌 Slow | 6.73 GB | Showed up in a few results, but not recommended. |
| Q8_0 | 🐌 Slow | 8.71 GB | Not recommended, Only one top 3 finish. |
You can read the guide for building llama.cpp here: HIFI_BUILD_GUIDE.md.
The HIFI quantization also used a very large 4697 chunk imatrix file for extra precision. You can re-use it here: Qwen3-8B-f16-imatrix-4697-generic.gguf
The imatrix was created as a generic mix of Wikipedia, mathmatics, and coding examples.
You can use the HIFI GitHub repository to build it from source if you're interested: https://github.com/geoffmunn/llama.cpp.
Build notes: HIFI_BUILD_GUIDE.md
Improvements and feedback are welcome.
Load this model using:
llama.cppEach quantized model includes its own README.md and shares a common MODELFILE for optimal configuration.
Importing directly into Ollama should work, but you might encounter this error: Error: invalid character '<' looking for beginning of value.
In this case try these steps:
wget https://huggingface.co/geoffmunn/Qwen3-8B-f16/resolve/main/Qwen3-8B-f16%3AQ3_K_M.gguf (replace the quantised version with the one you want)nano Modelfile and enter these details (again, replacing Q3_K_M with the version you want):FROM ./Qwen3-8B-f16:Q3_K_M.gguf
# Chat template using ChatML (used by Qwen)
SYSTEM You are a helpful assistant
TEMPLATE "{{ if .System }}<|im_start|>system
{{ .System }}<|im_end|>{{ end }}<|im_start|>user
{{ .Prompt }}<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant
"
PARAMETER stop <|im_start|>
PARAMETER stop <|im_end|>
# Default sampling
PARAMETER temperature 0.6
PARAMETER top_p 0.95
PARAMETER top_k 20
PARAMETER min_p 0.0
PARAMETER repeat_penalty 1.1
PARAMETER num_ctx 4096
The num_ctx value has been dropped to increase speed significantly.
ollama create Qwen3-8B-f16:Q3_K_M -f ModelfileYou will now see "Qwen3-8B-f16:Q3_K_M" in your Ollama model list.
These import steps are also useful if you want to customise the default parameters or system prompt.
👤 Geoff Munn (@geoffmunn)
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This is a community conversion for local inference. Not affiliated with Alibaba Cloud or the Qwen team.