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Escha-Qwen3.8-27B-W2-Q8E-ROCm is a text generation model from degenmeowster. Use it when you need the model to write or continue text. It is set up for gguf. The card lists the license as apache-2.0.
The Escha dense 27B model is a 2-bit-quantized build of the Qwen3.8-27B backbone (qwen35 architecture), converted to GGUF for llama.cpp and ported to run on AMD ROCm (gfx1100).
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From the Hugging Face model README
The Escha dense 27B model is a 2-bit-quantized build of the
Qwen3.8-27B backbone (qwen35 architecture), converted to GGUF for
llama.cpp and ported to run on AMD ROCm (gfx1100).
EschaLabs/Qwen3.8-27B-Escha-W2general.license = apache-2.0qwen35 (dense, non-MoE)gfx1100, 25.75 GB) — tested| Param | Value |
|---|---|
| Layers | 64 (48 linear attention + 16 full attention) |
| Embedding | 5120 |
| FFN | 17408 |
| Attention heads / KV heads | 24 / 4 |
| Head dim | 256 |
| Context train | 262144 |
| Param count | ~6.3B (Qwen3.8-27B backbone) |
Grab the model file (the only file in this repo):
huggingface-cli download degenmeowster/Escha-Qwen3.8-27B-W2-Q8E-ROCm \
Escha-Qwen3.8-27B-W2-Q8E.gguf --local-dir .
Then build + serve through the ROCmFPX fork of llama.cpp (maintained under
Chromadera). The escha decode kernel is a HIP kernel added to that tree on the
escha-dense-27b branch.
git clone https://github.com/Chromadera/ROCmFPX
cd ROCmFPX && git checkout escha-dense-27b
scripts/build-rdna3.sh # auto-selects gfx1100; see doc for ROCm-path overrides
cd build-rdna3/bin
./llama-server \
-m ./Escha-Qwen3.8-27B-W2-Q8E.gguf \
-ngl 99 -mg 0 -fa on --jinja \
--cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v q8_0 \
-c 204800 --no-warmup -np 1
Full build + run + sanity-check guidance:
docs/ESCHA-DENSE-27B-RUN-AMD.md
Measured via llama-bench / llama-perplexity, full offload, batch 1. Three
columns: this port (llama.cpp GGUF, ROCm/gfx1100), Ajay's
aj9o9/Qwen3.8-27B-Escha-W2-GGUF
(llama.cpp GGUF, CUDA), and the Escha reference build
(EschaLabs/Qwen3.8-27B-Escha-W2,
native SGLang, RTX 4090).
Comparability: this port and Ajay's are both llama.cpp GGUF — directly comparable. Escha's figures are the native SGLang runtime on an RTX 4090, a different engine and card, so read that column as reference-scale, not an apples-to-apples run.
| Test | This port (RX 7900 XTX) | Ajay (3090) | Escha (4090, SGLang) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Prefill (pp512) | 162.8 tok/s | 700.4 | ~2,700 tok/s¹ |
| Decode (tg128 / 1-user) | 25.8 tok/s | 24.03 | 67.0 tok/s |
| Decode @ 32k depth | 23.2 tok/s | ~22 | — |
| Decode @ 64k depth | 21.2 tok/s | ~20 | — |
¹Escha prefill is quoted from their ISL÷TTFT at batch 1 (2,600–2,820 tok/s on a 4090); the figure here is the midpoint. Escha's decode is single-stream.
Decode holds against Ajay's 3090 (25.8 vs 24.03) — decode is the memory-bandwidth-bound figure and the escha decode path saturates bandwidth here. Prefill is lower (162 vs 700) because the escha dense prefill path is more prefill-bound on this GPU.
Quality protocol differs by provider, so this is not a single scoring matrix — each row is the metric's own best measured value. This port and Ajay run llama.cpp and report perplexity; Escha reports task accuracy measured through its native SGLang runtime.
| Metric | This port (7900 XTX) | Ajay (3090) | Escha (4090, SGLang) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Perplexity (512-ctx) | 7.5131 ± 0.86 | 7.40 | — |
| Greedy determinism (5 prompts ×2) | 5/5 byte-identical | — | — |
| Growing-context retrieval (9k/18k/37k) | 3/3 retrieved | — | — |
| Greedy coherence | correct (Paris, gravity, 2+2=4) | — | — |
| GPQA-Diamond (n=198, thinking) | — | — | 88.38 |
| LiveCodeBench v6 (n=182, thinking) | — | — | 86.81 |
| Commonsense-6 avg (thinking-off) | — | — | 79.25 |
Note on axes. Quality protocol differs by provider, so this is not a single scoring matrix — each row is that metric's own best measured value, and the meaning of "better" differs by row (perplexity lower is better; task accuracy higher is better). This port and Ajay run llama.cpp and report perplexity (loss) and determinism; Escha reports task accuracy measured through its native SGLang runtime. A lower perplexity and a higher task score are not on the same scale, so read them as complementary evidence rather than a head-to-head. Escha reports its figures without speculation and on the same build upstream; this port reproduces that build deterministically.
q8_0 / q8_0, full lossless)| Context | VRAM |
|---|---|
| 32k | 12.14 GB |
| 64k | 13.28 GB |
| 128k | 15.55 GB |
| 200k | 18.30 GB |
| 262144 (full) | 20.72 GB |
The port runs the full 262144 context on a 24+ GB card because only 16 of 64 layers are full attention (see KV-cache below).
The Qwen3.8-27B backbone is a thinking model. It emits
<think>...</think> reasoning blocks that the llama.cpp server splits into
reasoning_content / content. It works with a Qwen-style Jinja chat template
and honors per-request reasoning_effort / reasoning_budget_tokens (e.g. the
quimmedes chat_template.jinja
via --chat-template-file), so you can drive thinking depth
by effort level.
The model is a 48 linear + 16 full-attention Qwen35 hybrid
(full_attention_interval = 4), so only ~16 layers carry a real KV cache. With
q8_0 / q8_0 K/V this fits even at the full 262144 context (~20.7 GB). A
lighter footprint is available via the fork's TurboQuant K/V types
(--cache-type-v turbo3 / turbo4).
Tensor breakdown (2054 tensors):
| Type | Count |
|---|---|
| F16 | 897 |
| F32 | 753 |
| escha_code (2-bit code) | 402 |
| Q8_0 | 2 |
This build builds on prior OSS work:
https://github.com/Ajay9o9/llama.cpp-escha (upstream escha decode
path + tests), published at
https://huggingface.co/aj9o9/Qwen3.8-27B-Escha-W2-GGUFescha 1.2.1+qwen3dense)https://github.com/charlie12345/ROCmFPX); now maintained under
Chromadera at https://github.com/Chromadera/ROCmFPXApache-2.0 (matching the Qwen3.8-27B base and the general.license field in
the GGUF).