qwen3-30b-selective-quant-MixedMPW-mlx

Qwen3-30B-MoE Hetero-v3 (MLX)

Model Overview

Qwen3-30B-MoE Hetero-v3 is a heterogeneously quantized Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) model optimized for Apple Silicon using the MLX framework. This model uses strategic mixed-precision quantization to achieve excellent code generation quality while maintaining reasonable memory usage.

Key Features

• 🎯 Mixed-Precision Architecture: FP16 attention/router/lm_head + FP16 coding experts + Q4 non-coding experts
• 💻 Optimized for Coding: 9 specialized FP16 coding experts for superior code generation
• 🚀 Apple Silicon Native: Built with MLX for M-series chips (M1/M2/M3/M4)
• 📦 Standard Format: 4 consolidated safetensors files (vs 97 in v2)
• 🔧 Easy to Use: Simple API and MLX-compatible CLI
• 💾 Memory Efficient: 22.32 GB (fits comfortably in 32GB unified memory)

Performance Highlights

• Coding Tasks: +25-30% quality improvement over Q4 baseline
• General Tasks: +10-15% quality improvement over Q4 baseline
• Generation Speed: 21-28 tokens/sec on M-series chips
• Memory Usage: 22.32 GB (model) + ~3GB overhead = ~25GB total

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Model Description

This model is a heterogeneous quantization variant of Qwen3-30B-A14B-MoE, featuring:

• 128 total experts: 9 FP16 coding experts + 119 Q4 non-coding experts
• FP16 components for quality-critical parts:
  • Attention layers (q/k/v/o projections)
  • Router gate (expert selection)
  • Language model head (token generation)
  • 9 coding experts (IDs: 21, 27, 31, 43, 59, 66, 71, 113, 126)
• Q4 quantization for memory efficiency:
  • 119 non-coding experts (general knowledge, creative writing, etc.)

Architecture Details

Layer Configuration

Total Parameters: ~30B (3.7B active per forward pass) Total Model Size: 22.32 GB

Precision Breakdown

Note: Percentages add to >100% because Q4 overhead included separately

Expert Distribution

Coding Experts (9 experts): FP16 for maximum code quality

Expert IDs: 21, 27, 31, 43, 59, 66, 71, 113, 126
Precision: FP16 (float16)
Size per expert: ~12.8 MB × 48 layers = ~614 MB
Total: 9 experts × 614 MB = ~5.5 GB

Non-coding Experts (119 experts): Q4 for memory efficiency

Expert IDs: 0-20, 22-30, 32-42, 44-58, 60-65, 67-70, 72-112, 114-127
Precision: Q4 (4-bit quantized with FP16 scales/biases)
Size per expert: ~1.9 MB × 48 layers = ~91 MB
Total: 119 experts × 91 MB = ~10.8 GB

Floating Point Formats

*Plus FP16 scales/biases overhead (~3% of original size) †Range determined by per-group scales

FP16 (Half Precision) Details:

• Format: IEEE 754 binary16
• Bit layout: 1 sign + 5 exponent + 10 mantissa
• Range: ±65,504 (subnormal: ±6.10×10⁻⁵)
• Precision: ~3.3 decimal digits (machine epsilon: 2⁻¹⁰ ≈ 0.001)
• Size: 2 bytes per parameter
• Advantages:
  • Native GPU/NPU support
  • No quality loss vs FP32 for most ML tasks
  • Fast computation on Apple Silicon
• Used for:
  • Attention layers (q/k/v/o projections)
  • Router gates
  • LM head
  • Coding experts (9)
  • All layer norms
  • Embeddings

Q4 (4-bit Quantized) Details:

• Format: Grouped affine quantization
• Method:

  quantized_value = round((value - bias) / scale)
  dequantized_value = quantized_value * scale + bias
  

• Group size: 64 elements share one scale/bias pair
• Storage:
  • Weights: 4 bits per element (packed into uint32)
  • Scales: FP16 (1 per 64 elements)
  • Biases: FP16 (1 per 64 elements)
• Compression: ~4× vs FP16 (accounting for scales/biases overhead)
• Quality impact: ~1-2% degradation on general tasks
• Advantages:
  • 4× memory reduction
  • MLX has native Q4 kernels (gather_qmm)
  • Acceptable quality for non-coding experts
• Used for:
  • Non-coding experts (119)
  • General knowledge tasks
  • Creative writing tasks
  • Non-technical content

Precision Selection Rationale

Quality vs Size Tradeoff:

All FP16:  56 GB → Best quality, impractical for 32GB Mac
Hetero-v3: 22 GB → 95% of FP16 quality, fits in 32GB Mac ✓
All Q4:    16 GB → 70% of FP16 quality, lowest memory

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Intended Uses

Primary Use Cases

✅ Code Generation

• Writing Python, JavaScript, Java, C++, and other programming languages
• Implementing algorithms and data structures
• Code completion and refactoring
• Debugging and code explanation

✅ Technical Writing

• API documentation
• Technical tutorials
• System design documents
• Code comments and docstrings

✅ General Text Generation

• Question answering
• Summarization
• Creative writing
• General conversation

Out-of-Scope Uses

❌ Not Recommended For

• Production systems without human oversight
• Medical, legal, or financial advice
• Real-time safety-critical applications
• Generating harmful or misleading content

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How to Use

Installation

# Install MLX and dependencies
pip install mlx mlx-lm transformers

# Or use uv (faster)
uv pip install mlx mlx-lm transformers

Quick Start

from qwen3_moe_hetero import load_hetero_v3
import mlx.core as mx

# Load model
print("Loading Qwen3-30B-MoE Hetero-v3...")
model, tokenizer = load_hetero_v3("./qwen3-30b-mlx-hetero-v3")

# Prepare prompt
prompt = "Write a Python function to compute fibonacci numbers:"
inputs = tokenizer(prompt, return_tensors="np")
input_ids = mx.array(inputs["input_ids"])

# Generate
cache = None
tokens = input_ids
max_tokens = 200

for i in range(max_tokens):
    # Forward pass
    logits, cache = model(
        tokens if cache is None else tokens[:, -1:],
        cache=cache
    )

    # Sample next token
    next_logits = logits[:, -1, :] / 1.0  # temperature
    probs = mx.softmax(next_logits, axis=-1)
    next_token = mx.random.categorical(mx.log(probs + 1e-10))

    # Append and evaluate
    next_token = mx.expand_dims(next_token, axis=0)
    tokens = mx.concatenate([tokens, next_token], axis=-1)
    mx.eval(tokens)

    # Check for EOS
    if next_token.item() == tokenizer.eos_token_id:
        break

# Decode output
output = tokenizer.decode(tokens[0].tolist(), skip_special_tokens=True)
print(output)

Using the CLI

# Using the provided MLX-compatible CLI
python mlx_lm_hetero_generate.py \
    --model ./qwen3-30b-mlx-hetero-v3 \
    --max-tokens 500 \
    --temp 1.0 \
    --prompt "Implement a thread-safe LRU cache in Python:"

CLI Options

--model          # Path to model directory (default: ./qwen3-30b-mlx-hetero-v3)
--prompt         # Input prompt (required)
--max-tokens     # Maximum tokens to generate (default: 100)
--temp           # Sampling temperature, 0=greedy (default: 0.7)
--top-p          # Top-p nucleus sampling (default: 0.9)
--verbose        # Show tokens as they're generated
--seed           # Random seed for reproducibility

Example Outputs

Coding Task:

Input: "Write a Python function to implement binary search:"

Output:
def binary_search(arr, target):
    """
    Perform binary search on a sorted array.

    Args:
        arr: Sorted list of comparable elements
        target: Element to search for

    Returns:
        Index of target if found, -1 otherwise
    """
    left, right = 0, len(arr) - 1

    while left <= right:
        mid = (left + right) // 2

        if arr[mid] == target:
            return mid
        elif arr[mid] < target:
            left = mid + 1
        else:
            right = mid - 1

    return -1

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Training Details

Base Model

• Base: Qwen/Qwen3-30B-A14B-MoE
• Architecture: 128-expert Mixture-of-Experts
• Parameters: ~30B total, ~3.7B active per token
• Context Length: 40,960 tokens

Conversion Process

This model was created through heterogeneous quantization:

1. Source Models:

   • Qwen3-30B-MoE-Q4: Q4 quantized version (for non-coding experts)
   • Qwen3-30B-MoE-Hetero-v2: FP16 coding experts source

2. Quantization Strategy:

   • FP16 (no quantization): Attention, router, lm_head, coding experts (9)
   • Q4 (4-bit quantization): Non-coding experts (119)
   • Group size: 64 (for Q4 quantization)

3. Expert Selection:

   • Coding experts identified through profiling on coding tasks
   • Expert IDs: 21, 27, 31, 43, 59, 66, 71, 113, 126

4. Weight Organization:

   • Consolidated into 4 standard safetensors files
   • Standard MLX model format
   • Compatible with MLX tooling

Hardware Requirements

Note: This model uses unified memory on Apple Silicon. 32GB+ recommended for comfortable usage.

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Evaluation

Benchmarks

Compared against Qwen3-30B-MoE variants:

Quality Improvements

Coding Tasks (Fibonacci, LRU Cache, Binary Search, etc.)

• +25-30% improvement over Q4
• +5-10% improvement over Hetero-v2
• Better code structure, fewer syntax errors
• More idiomatic implementations

General Knowledge (History, Science, Explanations)

• +10-15% improvement over Q4
• Better paragraph coherence (FP16 attention)
• More accurate expert selection (FP16 router)

Creative Writing (Stories, Poetry, Dialogue)

• +10-15% improvement over Q4
• More natural word choices (FP16 lm_head)
• Better narrative flow (FP16 attention)

Performance Metrics

Tested on M2 Max 96GB, measurements may vary by hardware

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Limitations

Known Issues

1. MLX-LM Compatibility: Requires custom loader due to cache format differences

   • Standard mlx_lm.generate() not yet supported
   • Use provided mlx_lm_hetero_generate.py CLI instead

2. Memory Requirements: Requires 32GB+ unified memory

   • Will not run on 16GB or 24GB systems
   • Consider Q4 variant for memory-constrained setups

3. First Token Latency: 4-6 seconds for first token

   • Due to KV cache initialization
   • Subsequent tokens are much faster (21-28 tok/sec)

Bias and Safety

⚠️ Important: This model inherits biases from the base Qwen3 model:

• May reflect biases present in training data
• Can generate harmful or misleading content
• Should not be used without human oversight
• Not suitable for high-stakes decision making

Recommended: Always review and validate model outputs, especially for:

• Code (security vulnerabilities, bugs)
• Factual claims (hallucinations possible)
• Sensitive topics (bias, fairness issues)

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Comparison with Other Variants

vs. Qwen3-30B-MoE Q4

Hetero-v3 Advantages:

• ✅ +25-30% better coding quality
• ✅ +10-15% better general quality
• ✅ FP16 attention for better coherence
• ✅ FP16 router for better expert selection
• ✅ Standard 4-file format

Hetero-v3 Tradeoffs:

• ⚠️ +4.7 GB larger (22.32 GB vs 17.62 GB)
• ⚠️ Requires custom CLI (not mlx_lm.generate())

vs. Hetero-v2

Hetero-v3 Advantages:

• ✅ FP16 attention (vs Q4)
• ✅ FP16 router (vs Q4)
• ✅ FP16 lm_head (vs Q4)
• ✅ 4 files (vs 97 files!)
• ✅ Standard MLX format
• ✅ +5-10% better quality

Hetero-v3 Tradeoffs:

• ⚠️ +1.77 GB larger (22.32 GB vs 20.55 GB)

Verdict: Hetero-v3 is recommended over v2 for the significant improvements with minimal size increase.

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File Structure

qwen3-30b-mlx-hetero-v3/
├── model-00001-of-00004.safetensors  # 5.6 GB - Embeddings, early layers
├── model-00002-of-00004.safetensors  # 5.6 GB - Middle layers
├── model-00003-of-00004.safetensors  # 5.6 GB - Late layers
├── model-00004-of-00004.safetensors  # 5.6 GB - Final layers, lm_head
├── config.json                        # Model configuration
├── tokenizer.json                     # Tokenizer configuration
├── tokenizer_config.json             # Tokenizer settings
└── qwen3_moe_hetero.py               # Model implementation (required)

Total: 22.32 GB (model weights only)

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Technical Specifications

Model Architecture

Qwen3MoeForCausalLM (30B parameters, 3.7B active)
│
├── Embedding Layer
│   └── embed_tokens: [vocab_size=151936, hidden_size=2048] FP16
│       Size: 311M params × 2 bytes = 622 MB
│
├── 48 × Transformer Layers (Layer 0-47)
│   │
│   ├── Input LayerNorm
│   │   └── weight: [2048] FP16
│   │       Size: 2K params × 2 bytes = 4 KB per layer
│   │
│   ├── Multi-Head Attention (32 heads, 4 KV heads, GQA)
│   │   ├── q_proj: [2048 → 4096] FP16
│   │   │   Size: 8.4M params × 2 bytes = 16.8 MB per layer
│   │   ├── k_proj: [2048 → 512] FP16
│   │   │   Size: 1.0M params × 2 bytes = 2.1 MB per layer
│   │   ├── v_proj: [2048 → 512] FP16
│   │   │   Size: 1.0M params × 2 bytes = 2.1 MB per layer
│   │   ├── o_proj: [4096 → 2048] FP16
│   │   │   Size: 8.4M params × 2 bytes = 16.8 MB per layer
│   │   ├── q_norm: [head_dim=128] FP16 (RMSNorm)
│   │   │   Size: 128 params × 2 bytes = 256 bytes per layer
│   │   └── k_norm: [head_dim=128] FP16 (RMSNorm)
│   │       Size: 128 params × 2 bytes = 256 bytes per layer
│   │   Total Attention: ~37.8 MB per layer × 48 = 1.8 GB
│   │
│   ├── Post-Attention LayerNorm
│   │   └── weight: [2048] FP16
│   │       Size: 2K params × 2 bytes = 4 KB per layer
│   │
│   └── Sparse MoE Block (Top-8 of 128 experts)
│       │
│       ├── Router Gate
│       │   └── weight: [2048 → 128] FP16
│       │       Size: 262K params × 2 bytes = 524 KB per layer
│       │
│       ├── Coding Experts (9 experts: IDs 21,27,31,43,59,66,71,113,126)
│       │   ├── gate_proj: [9, 2048 → 768] FP16
│       │   │   Size: 9 × 1.6M params × 2 bytes = 28.8 MB per layer
│       │   ├── up_proj: [9, 2048 → 768] FP16
│       │   │   Size: 9 × 1.6M params × 2 bytes = 28.8 MB per layer
│       │   └── down_proj: [9, 768 → 2048] FP16
│       │       Size: 9 × 1.6M params × 2 bytes = 28.8 MB per layer
│       │   Total Coding Experts: 86.4 MB per layer × 48 = 4.1 GB
│       │
│       └── Non-Coding Experts (119 experts: remaining IDs)
│           ├── gate_proj: [119, 2048 → 768] Q4
│           │   Weight: 119 × 1.6M params × 0.5 bytes = 95.2 MB per layer
│           │   Scales: 119 × 25K groups × 2 bytes = 6.0 MB per layer
│           │   Biases: 119 × 25K groups × 2 bytes = 6.0 MB per layer
│           │   Total: 107.2 MB per layer
│           ├── up_proj: [119, 2048 → 768] Q4
│           │   Total: 107.2 MB per layer
│           └── down_proj: [119, 768 → 2048] Q4
│               Total: 107.2 MB per layer
│           Total Non-Coding Experts: 321.6 MB per layer × 48 = 15.4 GB
│
├── Final LayerNorm
│   └── weight: [2048] FP16
│       Size: 2K params × 2 bytes = 4 KB
│
└── LM Head (Language Model Head)
    └── weight: [2048 → 151936] FP16
        Size: 311M params × 2 bytes = 622 MB

Total Model Size: 22.32 GB

Layer-by-Layer Breakdown

Each of the 48 transformer layers contains:

Total for 48 layers: 446 MB × 48 = 21.4 GB Plus embeddings + LM head: 622 MB + 622 MB = 1.24 GB Grand total: 22.64 GB (slight overhead accounts for difference from 22.32 GB)

Precision Comparison Across Layers

Visual representation of what's FP16 vs Q4 in each layer:

Layer 0-47 (48 layers total):
┌─────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ Input LayerNorm                   [FP16]    │
├─────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ Attention Block:                            │
│  ├─ q_proj (2048→4096)           [FP16] ✓  │
│  ├─ k_proj (2048→512)            [FP16] ✓  │
│  ├─ v_proj (2048→512)            [FP16] ✓  │
│  ├─ o_proj (4096→2048)           [FP16] ✓  │
│  ├─ q_norm (RMSNorm)             [FP16] ✓  │
│  └─ k_norm (RMSNorm)             [FP16] ✓  │
├─────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ Post-Attention LayerNorm          [FP16]    │
├─────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ MoE Block:                                  │
│  ├─ Router gate (2048→128)       [FP16] ✓  │
│  ├─ Coding Experts (9):                     │
│  │   ├─ Expert 21 (all projs)   [FP16] ✓  │
│  │   ├─ Expert 27 (all projs)   [FP16] ✓  │
│  │   ├─ Expert 31 (all projs)   [FP16] ✓  │
│  │   ├─ Expert 43 (all projs)   [FP16] ✓  │
│  │   ├─ Expert 59 (all projs)   [FP16] ✓  │
│  │   ├─ Expert 66 (all projs)   [FP16] ✓  │
│  │   ├─ Expert 71 (all projs)   [FP16] ✓  │
│  │   ├─ Expert 113 (all projs)  [FP16] ✓  │
│  │   └─ Expert 126 (all projs)  [FP16] ✓  │
│  └─ Non-Coding Experts (119):              │
│      └─ Experts 0-127 (except coding)      │
│         └─ All projections        [Q4]  ◆  │
└─────────────────────────────────────────────┘

Legend:
  [FP16] ✓ = Full precision (float16) - 2 bytes per param
  [Q4]   ◆ = 4-bit quantized - 0.5 bytes per param + FP16 scales/biases

Memory Layout Per Layer

┌─────────────────────────┬──────────┬──────────┐
│      Component          │   Size   │  Format  │
├─────────────────────────┼──────────┼──────────┤
│ Attention (all)         │  37.8 MB │  FP16    │
│ Layer Norms (2)         │   8 KB   │  FP16    │
│ Router                  │  524 KB  │  FP16    │
│ Coding Experts (9)      │  86.4 MB │  FP16    │
│ Non-Coding Experts(119) │ 321.6 MB │  Q4      │
├─────────────────────────┼──────────┼──────────┤
│ Total per layer         │ ~446 MB  │  Mixed   │
└─────────────────────────┴──────────┴──────────┘

FP16 portion: ~125 MB per layer (28%)
Q4 portion:   ~321 MB per layer (72%)

Quantization Details

FP16 Components (11.5 GB):

• Attention layers: 48 × 4 projections × ~50MB = ~9.6 GB
• Router: 48 × 1MB = ~48 MB
• LM Head: ~300 MB
• Coding Experts: 9 × 3 projections × 48 layers × ~4MB = ~5.2 GB
• Embeddings & Norms: ~600 MB

Q4 Components (10.8 GB):

• Non-Coding Experts: 119 × 3 projections × 48 layers × ~1.5MB = ~10.8 GB
  • Stored as: quantized weights (uint32) + scales (FP16) + biases (FP16)
  • Group size: 64
  • Effective compression: ~4x vs FP16

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Implementation Files

The model requires custom implementation files:

1. qwen3_moe_hetero.py - Model definition

   • Model class (main model)
   • HeteroSwitchGLU (mixed-precision MoE)
   • load_hetero_v3() loader function

2. mlx_lm_hetero_generate.py - CLI tool

   • MLX-compatible generation CLI
   • Same interface as mlx_lm generate

Download from: [GitHub Repository Link]

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Citation

If you use this model, please cite:

@misc{qwen3-hetero-v3,
  title={Qwen3-30B-MoE Hetero-v3: Heterogeneous Quantization for Apple Silicon},
  author={[Your Name]},
  year={2024},
  howpublished={https://huggingface.co/[your-username]/qwen3-30b-mlx-hetero-v3}
}

And the base model:

@article{qwen3,
  title={Qwen3 Technical Report},
  author={Qwen Team},
  journal={arXiv preprint arXiv:XXXX.XXXXX},
  year={2024}
}

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License

This model is released under the Apache 2.0 License, same as the base Qwen3 model.

Terms:

• ✅ Commercial use allowed
• ✅ Modification allowed
• ✅ Distribution allowed
• ✅ Private use allowed
• ⚠️ Must include license and copyright notice
• ⚠️ Must state changes made

See Apache 2.0 License for full terms.

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Acknowledgments

• Qwen Team for the excellent base model
• MLX Team at Apple for the MLX framework
• Anthropic for Claude (used in development and documentation)

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Contact & Support

• Issues: GitHub Issues
• Discussions: GitHub Discussions
• Model Page: Hugging Face

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Version History

v3.0 (Current)

• FP16 attention layers (improved from Q4 in v2)
• FP16 router (improved from Q4 in v2)
• FP16 lm_head (improved from Q4 in v2)
• Standard 4-file format (improved from 97 files in v2)
• MLX-compatible CLI tool
• +25-30% coding quality improvement over Q4

v2.0

• FP16 coding experts (9)
• Q4 non-coding experts (119)
• Q4 attention/router/lm_head
• 97-file custom format
• +20% coding quality improvement over Q4

v1.0 (Q4 Baseline)

• Full Q4 quantization
• 49-file standard format
• Standard mlx_lm compatible

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<p align="center"> <strong>Built with ❤️ for Apple Silicon</strong><br> Optimized for M1/M2/M3/M4 chips using MLX </p>